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New DL1050 XT... thoughts

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#1 · (Edited)
Hello everyone,
I've joined this forum to share my thoughts on the new DL1050 XT. It's been 2 days, and I'm still breaking it in. These are my thoughts so far.
- History: SV650 2017 (2019), CB500X 2017 (2019-2021), DL1050 XT (2021-?)
I loved the SV650, but needed something with more wind protection on the highway, so I moved to Honda, but then needed something more robust for the highway... some of the options were Versys 1000 SE, Tracer 9 GT, Tiger 900... in the end I liked the Suzuki big V the most, and I was impressed with the engine and machine in general that I put in an order after the test ride. This is my first brand new motorcycle.

- Dash:
On the SV650 & CB500X the clock (time) was very clear and legible, in a visible area of the dash. They didn't have the tech that's present on the DL1050... but I feel like unimportant information is highlighted, and useful information like time and temperature are microscopic at the bottom of the screen... not ideal
edit: I'd like to add the inability to change time format :/

- Menu:
Button navigation isn't very intuitive. You'd expect "Mode" to function as a "select/enter" button... but it's always "Mode"! Instead I have to long press "up/down" to enter/select... which slows you down

- Low RPM assist:
I get why this feature is present on a beginner friendly motorcycle like SV650 and smaller... but is it really needed on a motorcycle this size that's geared more towards more experienced riders?
My main complaint about this feature is clutch pull: I like to keep the clutch half pulled when stopped (just enough to disengage), and this feature progressively raises the RPM as you let go of the lever (starting from full pull) so it revs up as I'm sitting in traffic. Pulling the lever all the way in interferes with my riding style
There's an option to disable hill hold, but not low RPM assist, why?

- Pegs:
The riding position is very comfortable, and I appreciate the pegs position as I'm riding, but they get in the way as I'm pulling up to a stop and I need to put my left foot down (peg in the way!). If I put my foot in front of the peg I don't like the peg pushing my leg, and putting it behind the peg is a bit uncomfortable and takes a conscious effort. Tips?

- Side stand:
This is also related to the peg position. I can't seem to kick the stand in one motion as the peg interferes with that, and the spring isn't loaded enough to take it all the way down. On the CB500X I used to lift the peg with my calf, and kick the stand down with my heel, in one continuous motion. Tips on how to kick it in one motion are welcome!
The stand is also too easy to close (for example if moved while the stand is down... happened to me on the test ride, but I caught it in time before it was too late!)

- Throttle:
This is my first ride-by-wire system... it gets some getting used to, especially not having any free play in the throttle (as opposed to ride-by-cable that have about 20 mm play iirc)

- Seat:
For me it's firm, but not uncomfortable. I used to started moving about after about 40 minutes on the CB500X, but I can stay for an entire hour without moving on the DL1050 (longest trip so far)

- 2021 colors:
Pictures don't do them justice, especially the orange/white, and yellow/black. In the end I went for metallic black with golden wheels

- Fuel efficiency:
I got 6.5 L/100 km on my one hour spirited highway & around town test ride if the trip computer is to be believed (I've read that it's "spot-on" according to one long-term review). I got 6.6 L/100 km on my way home from the dealership (about 40 minutes) keeping it under 4500 RPM mostly highway... I'll see how it changes after the break-in is over and I do the 1st oil change... but these numbers are high and different from what Suzuki and other riders report... turbo hatchback car high!

- Handling:
I couldn't believe how maneuverable and easy to handle this motorcycle is! I expected it to be more challenging given its weight and height coming from the smaller CB500X... Suzuki did an excellent job on this front!

- Engine:
I love when this engine revs! I love the rumbling and grunt, it reminded me of my SV

- Delivery:
This is specific to my country. It wasn't in stock, and I ordered it a few days before they put in their order to Suzuki Japan for that month. It arrived from Japan after about 25 days, and took the dealer about a week to put it together and finish all the paperwork. I think the wait time was reasonable

All in all I'm very happy with my new machine, and looking forward to many years with it having fun. Thanks to everyone on this forum, it definitely factored into my decision to buy it having a good source of knowledge and community
 
#2 ·
This is great!
I'm shopping a 1050XT as my next motorcycle and very strongly considering treating myself to a new one. Used market is very thin anyway, as the bike has not been in the US very long.

For the footpegs, would a lowering kit help? I don't know how tall you are but at over 6 feet, I found footpeg lowering surprisingly helpful on my 2007 DL1000.
 
#3 ·
I was in your position a few months ago. I was going the used route, but the market for big ADV motorcycles is thin (not just COVID, people seem to prefer riding sportbikes and shy away from putting miles on them... I sold my Honda at about 70k km and I kept hearing how it's basically unsalable due to its "high" odometer). The dealer had a good deal for paying in cash, and the new DL1050 looks so damn sexy with many upgrades that it was worth it for me to go new.

I don't have a problem so far with my knees, it's definitely an improvement over CB500X, I don't know how much a lowering kit would help. I'm about 178 cm (5'10")
 
#4 ·
You might be surprised. The peg lowering kit on my DL1000 "only" took them down by 1 inch. Doesn't sound like much but it meant my knees were less bent.

In your case it might mean the pegs get in the way a little less since they'll be farther away.

Could also be you'll get used to it, since the bike is very new to you.

I wish I could test ride a 1050XT but there's no way. Dealers in my state never stocked them.
 
#6 ·
@On2Wheels

The foot pegs and side stand are things you will likely get used to over time. I do have the peg lowering kit and that makes my riding position a bit more comfy.

The Time and temp are a bit difficult to read in some cases but it's not like you read them every few minutes. Generally I like the presentation of information on the screen.

As far as the buttons are concerned I think you will get used to them. I like that they don't have a while bunch of buttons on the handlebars and have figured out how to make the best use of the buttons that are there. The only real annoyance with the buttons I have is after the bike has been shut off to remember to activate the cruise before hitting the "Set" button. (I used cruise pretty much all the time I'm not in twisties.)

I agree the handling is very good and (to me) most importantly gives a great feeling of confidence.

Regarding the engine: I have had two DL650's (about 340,000 km between the two of them) and my wife had a Gladius that I occasionally rode. to me Susuzki's 650 twin is one of the nicest most fun engines I have ridden. What impressed me the most on the 1050 is how much the state of tune of the engine reminds me of the 650. Way more power of course and not as smooth but happy to pull to redline and in twisties happy to stay around 6,000 rpm in 2nd or 3rd.

..Tom
 
#7 ·
@V-Tom
I hope I get used to them quickly. Besides being annoying, I don't want to get into the (rare) situation where I have to stop suddenly and put my foot down to support the bike, and then fumble it and fall!
I agree with on the VT 650 engine... it was a peach to ride. I think the SV650 is an often overlooked option for those looking for a mid-sized naked, which is a shame
 
#10 ·
Hi, I agree that the time and temp info is too small ,and its something that I glance at regularly. When I first got the bike I hated the position of the foot pegs getting in the way when coming to a stop. But now, I never even notice this. Strange, but I've obviously got used to where the pegs are and it just feels normal.
 
#11 ·
Ironically all the stuff you have complaints about you will get used to... and the seat, which you had no complaints about, you will come to hate!!!
 
#13 ·
information like time and temperature are microscopic at the bottom of the screen... not ideal
Not ideal, but maybe you can attach one of those glue-on "full sheet magnifying glass" cut to size of your display, what was big it will get bigger and that "time and temperature" should get more visible?


Also maybe attach a couple of these "stick on lenses" to the bottom of your helmet visor?

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#15 ·
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Also maybe attach a couple of these "stick on lenses" to the bottom of your helmet visor?
...
I've been using "Hydrotac" stick on bifocal lenses on my sunglasses for several years now. They have all kinds of sizes. (I'm using 2.0's now.)

For night riding I have bifocal Safety glasses.

..Tom
 
#14 ·
- Side stand:
This is also related to the peg position. I can't seem to kick the stand in one motion as the peg interferes with that, and the spring isn't loaded enough to take it all the way down. On the CB500X I used to lift the peg with my calf, and kick the stand down with my heel, in one continuous motion. Tips on how to kick it in one motion are welcome!
The stand is also too easy to close (for example if moved while the stand is down... happened to me on the test ride, but I caught it in time before it was too late!)
I can suggest you do a "kickstand mod"...

I am happy with the end result, now the springs are really holding the kickstand in "open position", and you have to apply decent force to "close it", the way it should have been done by Suzuki. It takes about 7 lbs of force to close it now, before it was almost closing by itself.
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#17 ·
- Low RPM assist:
I get why this feature is present on a beginner friendly motorcycle like SV650 and smaller... but is it really needed on a motorcycle this size that's geared more towards more experienced riders?
I am experienced rider 🙂 and don't mind the Low RPM assist, I usually have music playing in my helmet, and pulling a slow U-turn without hearing the engine is a tricky business, I rely on the electronics to prevent the engine from stalling, if on incline I keep my eyes on the RPM's as well.

Fun fact: "experienced riders" do stall their engines at take offs and parking lots sometimes...Suzuki is well aware of the age group that buys Vstroms :D